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Bought this in grey and tan for my husband for his every day work pants and he loves them. They fit great and last forever.

Love these pants if they didn't wrinkle so bad. They always look like I have been sleeping them. I called Carhartt help service and asked if there were similar pants to the 102291 pants and the person on the phone, who didn't speak very good English, couldn't answer my question. I also asked her if she could tell me the difference between these pants and the 102517 pants, and she could not. So, why would Carhartt make 2 "different" pants if the make up and style is the same? I hope Carhartt hires support personnel who knows their products rather then doing what all other companies do, which is farm out the phone answering to contract companies in other countries who know nothing about their products.

I have 3 pair of these pants prior to this purchase and I really like them. I ordered 2 more pair and they were manufactured in a different country than the first three pair. These newest pants do not fit around my hind end like the others. Not very happy with my most recent purchase.